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		<title>Comment on Calling all typos by editorialcourses</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/calling-all-typos/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>editorialcourses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there! Yes, Word Nerds Unite will stay alive (or at least in its more typical semi-catatonic state!) once the other one is launched. I&#039;ve got a start on it at http://editorialcurses.wordpress.com if you want to check it out. I&#039;ve also started a Twitter feed at http://twitter.com/editorialcurses. It is becoming a really neat way to connect with the grammar geek community!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there! Yes, Word Nerds Unite will stay alive (or at least in its more typical semi-catatonic state!) once the other one is launched. I&#8217;ve got a start on it at <a href="http://editorialcurses.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://editorialcurses.wordpress.com</a> if you want to check it out. I&#8217;ve also started a Twitter feed at <a href="http://twitter.com/editorialcurses" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/editorialcurses</a>. It is becoming a really neat way to connect with the grammar geek community!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling all typos by janflora</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/calling-all-typos/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>janflora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glad to see this blog again- will it remain after the new one starts? It sounds like fun- I will keep my eyes peeled for a juicy one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad to see this blog again- will it remain after the new one starts? It sounds like fun- I will keep my eyes peeled for a juicy one!</p>
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		<title>Comment on So much for weekly by Rudolph</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/so-much-for-weekly/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your opinion that to be precise with one&#039;s words is always desirable when it is possible to be precise, thus, to use the more precise word &quot;more&quot; as opposed to the more indefinite or ambiguous word &quot;over.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your opinion that to be precise with one&#8217;s words is always desirable when it is possible to be precise, thus, to use the more precise word &#8220;more&#8221; as opposed to the more indefinite or ambiguous word &#8220;over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by goofy</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>goofy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If I say, “I am under a hundred pounds,” do you assume: (a) that I am underweight, or (b) that I am in danger of being squashed by tenuously hanging dumbbells?&lt;/i&gt;

I assume (a), since that is the only reasonable assumption based on  context and real-world knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If I say, “I am under a hundred pounds,” do you assume: (a) that I am underweight, or (b) that I am in danger of being squashed by tenuously hanging dumbbells?</i></p>
<p>I assume (a), since that is the only reasonable assumption based on  context and real-world knowledge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by over = more than &#171; Motivated Grammar</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>over = more than &#171; Motivated Grammar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 21, 2008 in grammar, history, modification, speech, words, writing   Did I miss the memo? Suddenly all the grammar snobs on the snobosphere are debating whether over is an improper substitute for more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 21, 2008 in grammar, history, modification, speech, words, writing   Did I miss the memo? Suddenly all the grammar snobs on the snobosphere are debating whether over is an improper substitute for more [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by robertstevenson</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>robertstevenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;d like to invite you to my Grammar Group:
http://www.blogcatalog.com/group/the-grammar-group</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;d like to invite you to my Grammar Group:<br />
<a href="http://www.blogcatalog.com/group/the-grammar-group" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogcatalog.com/group/the-grammar-group</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by Gabe</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand wanting to avoid ambiguous usage, so in that regard I can see personally preferring &quot;more than&quot;.

As for the snobbery, though, this isn&#039;t a matter of merely acceptable usage.  This is both correct and accurate usage, and has been for nearly a millennium.  Noah Webster himself puts in his &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=lxNzUsZYr78C&amp;pg=PA202&amp;dq=over+%22more+than%22+dictionary&amp;as_brr=1&amp;ei=KWQaSPm9DoKMsgPZhbD_AQ#PPA3,M1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dictionary for Primary Schools&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;i&gt;over&lt;/i&gt; means &quot;more than&quot; (p. 201), so if Webster&#039;s current dictionary disallows that, it must have been after Webster&#039;s death.  Given how often &quot;over&quot; is used to mean &quot;more than&quot; in American English, a dictionary that doesn&#039;t include some mention of this fact, not even to condemn it, seems neither accurate nor authoritative on American English usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand wanting to avoid ambiguous usage, so in that regard I can see personally preferring &#8220;more than&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for the snobbery, though, this isn&#8217;t a matter of merely acceptable usage.  This is both correct and accurate usage, and has been for nearly a millennium.  Noah Webster himself puts in his <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=lxNzUsZYr78C&amp;pg=PA202&amp;dq=over+%22more+than%22+dictionary&amp;as_brr=1&amp;ei=KWQaSPm9DoKMsgPZhbD_AQ#PPA3,M1" rel="nofollow"><i>Dictionary for Primary Schools</i></a> that <i>over</i> means &#8220;more than&#8221; (p. 201), so if Webster&#8217;s current dictionary disallows that, it must have been after Webster&#8217;s death.  Given how often &#8220;over&#8221; is used to mean &#8220;more than&#8221; in American English, a dictionary that doesn&#8217;t include some mention of this fact, not even to condemn it, seems neither accurate nor authoritative on American English usage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by editorialcourses</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>editorialcourses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you I was a snob, didn&#039;t I? &quot;Acceptable&quot; usage is not necessarily correct or accurate usage as far as I&#039;m concerned. You&#039;ve got me on the OED&#039;s definition, but I still maintain that Webster&#039;s print dictionary presents the most accurate and authoritative American usage available.  

&quot;Now, a brief historical note: During the American Civil war, apparently it was quite common for under-aged boys to falsely swear, &#039;I’m over 18&#039; so they could be in the army. The story goes that quite a few of them wrote the number &#039;18&#039; on a slip of paper and put it in the bottom of one of their shoes prior to arriving at the recruiting office, thus technically validating their oath&quot; (Betalogue - http://www.betalogue.com/2004/01/13/more-than-vs-over/). 

To me, using &lt;i&gt;over&lt;/i&gt; to mean &lt;i&gt;more than&lt;/i&gt; is vague and allows for misinterpretation, which is unacceptable. If you have the words to say it best, why wouldn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you I was a snob, didn&#8217;t I? &#8220;Acceptable&#8221; usage is not necessarily correct or accurate usage as far as I&#8217;m concerned. You&#8217;ve got me on the OED&#8217;s definition, but I still maintain that Webster&#8217;s print dictionary presents the most accurate and authoritative American usage available.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Now, a brief historical note: During the American Civil war, apparently it was quite common for under-aged boys to falsely swear, &#8216;I’m over 18&#8242; so they could be in the army. The story goes that quite a few of them wrote the number &#8216;18&#8242; on a slip of paper and put it in the bottom of one of their shoes prior to arriving at the recruiting office, thus technically validating their oath&#8221; (Betalogue &#8211; <a href="http://www.betalogue.com/2004/01/13/more-than-vs-over/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.betalogue.com/2004/01/13/more-than-vs-over/)</a>. </p>
<p>To me, using <i>over</i> to mean <i>more than</i> is vague and allows for misinterpretation, which is unacceptable. If you have the words to say it best, why wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m overtired, and that&#8217;s OK by Gabe</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/30/im-overtired-and-thats-ok/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 19:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Over&lt;/i&gt; has been meaning &lt;i&gt;more than&lt;/i&gt; since Old English -- the &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/00336364?query_type=word&amp;queryword=over&amp;first=1&amp;max_to_show=10&amp;sort_type=alpha&amp;result_place=7&amp;search_id=R16m-maqu7v-10188&amp;hilite=00336364&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OED&lt;/a&gt; has an attestation from 1175 of &quot;over a mile&quot; to mean &quot;more than one mile&quot; (it&#039;s definition III.13 in the OED).  And the online Merriam-Webster dictionary also lists &quot;mote then&quot; as an acceptable definition of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/over&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over&lt;/a&gt;.  

If it&#039;s a matter of untrained minds misusing it, then Jane Austen&#039;s an untrained mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Over</i> has been meaning <i>more than</i> since Old English &#8212; the <a href="http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/00336364?query_type=word&amp;queryword=over&amp;first=1&amp;max_to_show=10&amp;sort_type=alpha&amp;result_place=7&amp;search_id=R16m-maqu7v-10188&amp;hilite=00336364" rel="nofollow">OED</a> has an attestation from 1175 of &#8220;over a mile&#8221; to mean &#8220;more than one mile&#8221; (it&#8217;s definition III.13 in the OED).  And the online Merriam-Webster dictionary also lists &#8220;mote then&#8221; as an acceptable definition of <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/over" rel="nofollow">over</a>.  </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a matter of untrained minds misusing it, then Jane Austen&#8217;s an untrained mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mindspace by janflora</title>
		<link>http://editorialcourses.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/mindspace/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>janflora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the book suggestion. I had a friend who called it &quot;thwriting&quot; or think-writing. I just blogged about something similar, [working through the writing process/stumbling blocks] including two other books that are helping me even as we speak. It &lt;i&gt;must&lt;i&gt; be in the air!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the book suggestion. I had a friend who called it &#8220;thwriting&#8221; or think-writing. I just blogged about something similar, [working through the writing process/stumbling blocks] including two other books that are helping me even as we speak. It <i>must</i><i> be in the air!</i></p>
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